@Lode: I'll try to explain the " working" of MailWasher by compairing it to (paper-) mailhandling in the oldfashioned office:
"Normal" mail handling:
1- Mail comes in the mail- room (your mail-server)
2- The mail-employée, hired to handle the mail (let's call him/her the "MailWasher") then A: sorts out the junkmail, such as begging letters and advertising brochures and throws those away (MW deletes them from the server) and B: leaves the rest on a neat pile to be picked up by the secretary (your mail- client)
3- Then the secretary(mail-client) descends to the mail- room(mail-server) and picks up all remaining mail.
Now, you can imagine, what would happen if:
X: the "secretary" would pick up the mail before step 2A has been executed: (s)he would then pick up all unwanted mail, together with the "good" stuff. So it's essential, you never let your secretary(mail-client) pick up the mail before the "mail- employée/Mailwasher" has done his/her job.
Y: The employée/Mailwasher would throw ALL mail away before the "secretary" has picked it up: (s)he would find NO mail at all...
Z: The secretary does not take the "good" mail with him/her, but copies those instead and leaves the originals in the mail- room(mail-server). In this case, the mail- employée/mailWasher would have to throw away those originals, in order to prevent the mail-room from getting stuffed with old paper.. extra and completely unnecessary work!
Your way of working, could be compared to hypothetical "case X" together with "case Z".
You're doing a lot of extra work that could easily have been handled by MailWasher, IF you would stick to the right sequence..
Summary:
- You should let MailWasher (and MailWasher alone) do the automatic mail-checking and have it "wash" away all junk (and ONLY that junk).
- You should then let Opera (set NOT to leave a copy on the server and NEVER to check mail by itself) MANUALLY fetch the "good" mail.
This'll save you all the extra work: MailWasher will delete all junk and Opera will download (only) the good mail to your computer and delete it from the server.
Plse note: mail deleted by Opera will remain visible in MailWasher until it(MWP) checks the MaiServer again and finds, that Opera has deleted it from there. That's not a bug, that's how it's designed to be. Just do a manual "check mail" in MW if you want to clear the message pane in between automatic check-mails.
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Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
Beta tester.. oh well!
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Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
Thanks much once more.
I could have explained it clearer with less words and not making things confusing by using "wash away" when I meant "delete" for the good mail.
I always have let MW fetch the mail first, and if there was spam, had it report that to SpamCop with "delete" checked. So the spam was gone from its interface, and also from the server. (Only on rare occasions did I report spam to SC without checking the spam for deleting, so I would also get it in my Opera mail client. But even that was never a problem.)
Then I would switch to Opera and let it fetch the good mail that MW left on the server. After that I would return to MW to have it delete the good mail I already fetched with Opera.
I was only wondering I it was possible to let MW delete -or maybe I should say "remove" the good mail -I mean making it disappear from its interface only- while still leaving it on the server. So I wouldn't have to return to MW after fetching the good mail with Opera to then have MW delete the good mail that was still on its interface, because I would already have let it remove that before I switched to Opera.
But I understand now that it can't be done, and I have peace with that and gladly continue using the MWP-Opera combo work together as well as they always have.
Like I said: it's no biggie. It must be that I've been spoiled by MW and Opera -and SpamCop- and have gotten a bit too jaded.
That clears up for me what I was wondering about.
Thanks once more!
I could have explained it clearer with less words and not making things confusing by using "wash away" when I meant "delete" for the good mail.
I always have let MW fetch the mail first, and if there was spam, had it report that to SpamCop with "delete" checked. So the spam was gone from its interface, and also from the server. (Only on rare occasions did I report spam to SC without checking the spam for deleting, so I would also get it in my Opera mail client. But even that was never a problem.)
Then I would switch to Opera and let it fetch the good mail that MW left on the server. After that I would return to MW to have it delete the good mail I already fetched with Opera.
I was only wondering I it was possible to let MW delete -or maybe I should say "remove" the good mail -I mean making it disappear from its interface only- while still leaving it on the server. So I wouldn't have to return to MW after fetching the good mail with Opera to then have MW delete the good mail that was still on its interface, because I would already have let it remove that before I switched to Opera.
But I understand now that it can't be done, and I have peace with that and gladly continue using the MWP-Opera combo work together as well as they always have.
Like I said: it's no biggie. It must be that I've been spoiled by MW and Opera -and SpamCop- and have gotten a bit too jaded.

That clears up for me what I was wondering about.
Thanks once more!

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JFTR: Jou absolutely don't need to delete any good mail, still on MWP's interface after a wash. All good messages will disappear "automagically" from the interface with the first check mail that MWP will perform, after they're fetched and deleted from the server by Opera,.
Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
You're welcome...Lode wrote:(...) to then have MW delete the good mail that was still on its interface, because I would already have let it remove that before I switched to Opera.
But I understand now that it can't be done, and I have peace with that and gladly continue using the MWP-Opera combo work together as well as they always have. (...)
Thanks once more!

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Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
What a nice surprise!
So it can be done. I only had to uncheck the "Leave messages on server" box in Opera mail. I had misunderstood.
I just send myself an email again, let MW fetch it, left it on its interface without even marking it for deletion, switched to Opera and have it fetch that email -at this point I went to my webmail to check it out of curiosity, and my test email was not there anymore- then I let MW check again for mail, and at that instant my test email disappeared from its interface.
Youpiii! This is what I was wondering about. From now on I never have to return to MW again after having it fetch the mail and then have Opera fetch it.
Thanks again indeed.

So it can be done. I only had to uncheck the "Leave messages on server" box in Opera mail. I had misunderstood.
I just send myself an email again, let MW fetch it, left it on its interface without even marking it for deletion, switched to Opera and have it fetch that email -at this point I went to my webmail to check it out of curiosity, and my test email was not there anymore- then I let MW check again for mail, and at that instant my test email disappeared from its interface.
Youpiii! This is what I was wondering about. From now on I never have to return to MW again after having it fetch the mail and then have Opera fetch it.

Thanks again indeed.

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Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
Now, the next important step is to disable the automatic scheduled Send/receive - sorry, can't guide you further as I don't use Opera Mail.
Once you start fetching your mails manually (instead of using the automatic scheduler in Opera Mail,) the margin of error for SPAM to sneak through, becomes minimal.
Once you start fetching your mails manually (instead of using the automatic scheduler in Opera Mail,) the margin of error for SPAM to sneak through, becomes minimal.
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Re: How to let MailWasher Leave Mail on Server
Yes, that is something I had always set in Opera: never to fetch mail automatically. It's also strongly recommended during installing MW. Maybe in the beginning -July 2011- when I began utilizing MW I did not uncheck that automatic function in Opera, but soon enough disabled it.
I'm enjoying not having to return to MW every time to have it delete the mail from it's interface... just as I was hoping that was possible.
I'm enjoying not having to return to MW every time to have it delete the mail from it's interface... just as I was hoping that was possible.