Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

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Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:08 pm

Today and yesterday, MW2010 has been stuck at the "Evaluating Message" stage. It hangs on the last message.

This means that I cannot "Wash Mail" without telling it to "Stop".

Is there any way that I can detect which message, if any, causes this behaviour?

Is there a "Time out"? Or will MW2010 keep trying until hell freezes over?
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:19 pm

Do you get any errors in the Log tab (Triangle, next to the settings tab)? It will flash if there is a problem.

If the tab is not there you can display it: Help > Always Show Event Log
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:24 pm

We've just posted 1.0.4, so go Help >> Check for Updates >> install that version and hopefully that has the right fixes in place for this.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:46 pm

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Maybe it fixes that too.

Will retrieve manually.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:47 pm

Update worked fine here :scratch

Is your firewall letting the update process through?
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:51 pm

anniebrion wrote:Update worked fine here :scratch

Is your firewall letting the update process through?
Yeah it will be otherwise it won't complete. This isn't the first time, I think we are seeing ISP caching maybe.....be frustrating if it was that.



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If you view the update file direct, what's the top version listed ?
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:46 am

anniebrion wrote:Update worked fine here :scratch

Is your firewall letting the update process through?
A couple of points, everything else gets through when asked to check for updates, so I assume that it isn't picking on MW.

In any case, if the firewall was obstructing the update check, then MW should not issue erroneous messages. It should complain that it cannot reach whatever it needs to reach to check the update.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:00 am

michaelkenward wrote:
anniebrion wrote:Update worked fine here :scratch

Is your firewall letting the update process through?
A couple of points, everything else gets through when asked to check for updates, so I assume that it isn't picking on MW.

In any case, if the firewall was obstructing the update check, then MW should not issue erroneous messages. It should complain that it cannot reach whatever it needs to reach to check the update.
If I recall there was another similar instance and the firewall was in fact the problem. It had to do with specific ports being blocked. Check your firewall logs and settings.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:40 pm

The Updater I'm sure is just port 80, so standard ports shouldn't be blocked. A proxy might complicate things ?

The other thing under Settings >> General >> Updates >> this needs to be a folder that has write access, by default we set it as such using a common app data folder, but if for example on Vista you alter it to /Program Files/ then it might stall.

We don't have much logging options in the updater, as it's provided with our installer package, hopefully we'll have this figured out soon though.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:17 pm

anniebrion wrote:Do you get any errors in the Log tab (Triangle, next to the settings tab)? It will flash if there is a problem.

If the tab is not there you can display it: Help > Always Show Event Log
On the subject of this, "stuck at evaluating", it has happened again.

I can see no Log Tab with triangle nor any menu entry in the Help section. Unless it is the one that enigmatically says "Log Protocol".
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:19 pm

No you won't unfortunately. The Event Log we have in place is only for exceptions that the engine is handling. In this case it's just plain breaking.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:15 am

You can select the “Always Show Event Log” option on the View Menu and it’ll (the triangle tab) be there full-time:
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:52 am

Great. That actually works, unlike the earlier suggestion. Many thanks.

Not sure if it will capture this issue. (See note from rusticdog.)

But it does give me something else to read.
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:55 am

michaelkenward wrote:Great. That actually works, unlike the earlier suggestion. Many thanks.

Not sure if it will capture this issue. (See note from rusticdog.)

But it does give me something else to read.
Possibly not but then, I didn’t say it would “fix your problem”. I just said it’d show the Event Log. :thumbsup :devil
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Re: Stuck at "Evaluating Message"

Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:46 pm

Hi

I have exactly the same problem on around half the times I check mail. It is always stuck at the last one. This is on my two machines.

Regards Alan

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